South Island House Relocators Ltd and Television New Zealand Ltd - 1998-059
Members
- J Withers
- L M Loates
- R McLeod
Dated
Complainant
- South Island House Relocators Ltd
Number
1998-059
Programme
Fair GoBroadcaster
Television New Zealand LtdChannel/Station
TVNZ 1Summary
Problems experienced by three different clients with a house removal company were the
subject of an item on Fair Go on 3 September 1997 at 7.30pm.
Mr Palmer, one of the owners of South Island House Relocators Ltd, complained to
Television New Zealand Ltd that the broadcast did not deal fairly with him or his
company, that it contained inaccuracies and failed to present a balanced account of the
company's dealing with its clients.
TVNZ responded that there had been a number of complaints about the company failing
to meet its contractual obligations to its clients. It emphasised that it researched the
background to each of the complaints and considered that it accurately and fairly
portrayed the grievances. Furthermore, Mr Palmer was given an opportunity to
respond to the allegations made. TVNZ concluded that the programme fairly and
accurately portrayed the company's operation with respect to the three complainants.
Dissatisfied with TVNZ's decision, Mr Palmer referred the complaint to the
Broadcasting Standards Authority under s.8(1)(a) of the Broadcasting Act 1989.
For the reasons given below, the Authority declines to uphold the complaint.
Decision
The members of the Authority have viewed a tape of the item complained about, and
have read the lengthy correspondence (summarised in the Appendix). On this occasion,
it determines the complaint without a hearing.
Because of his association with the complainant's company in the past, the Chairperson
declared a conflict of interest and declined to participate in the deliberations.
An item on Fair Go broadcast on 3 September 1997 at 7.30pm dealt with the problems
experienced by three different customers of South Island House Relocators (SIHR)
when it relocated their houses. Describing the company as "the movers from Hell", Fair
Go focussed on the company's failure to complete the moves to the clients' satisfaction.
The condition of the first house, seen still sitting on drums after almost 12 months, was
described as deteriorating with the passage of time. The owner said he had been unable
to persuade SIHR to complete the job. It was reported that the piles had to be dug
deeper than was originally planned, and the responsibility as to who would carry out
this work was in dispute.
Another customer said that the company refused to install the piles for his house,
contrary to the contractual agreement, and he was obliged to get another contractor to do
the work. However, SIHR still considered it was owed the full contract price.
The third house was described as being so badly damaged in the relocation that it was
uninhabitable, and its owners had been living in a bus for a year. In their view, SIHR
had not kept its side of the bargain because it had not attempted to make good the
damage done to the house during the move.
Fair Go then put questions to what it called "the man in charge", Mr Palmer. Extracts
from an interview, which had lasted 1 hour and 25 minutes, showed Mr Palmer denying
that the company had failed to honour its obligations. In his view, it was reported, it
was the customers who were at fault, because they had made unreasonable demands on
the company. The programme concluded with the presenter strongly urging people to
think twice before using SIHR to shift their house.
The Complaint
Mr Palmer complained to TVNZ that the Fair Go item was a malicious personal attack
on him. He objected to having been approached for comment by Fair Go out of
working hours and at a time which was inconvenient for him. He contended that the
programme misled the public by omitting six words out of a section of the contract
quoted, and by failing to reveal that each of the three customers featured was in breach
of their part of the contract, and asserted that they themselves were responsible for
SIHR's failure to complete the work contracted for.
Mr Palmer said that he considered it unfair that the programme neglected to mention
that his company had successfully completed 50 other relocations, and had many
satisfied clients. He challenged the reporter to identify the "50-odd dissatisfied
customers" he claimed were referred to in the programme. He also said it was incorrect
to describe him as "the man in charge", and for the programme to state that he was
filmed at the headquarters of the company.
Mr Palmer cited specific alleged omissions by the programme with respect to each of
the moves featured. Turning to the first case, he said that Fair Go failed to note that the
client had neglected to complete a pre-survey of the property, which resulted in a
month's delay in siting the house. Furthermore, he contended, SIHR did not have
unencumbered access to the property. As for the second customer, Mr Palmer said that
the client did not have ownership of the land until after the move had been completed,
and further, SIHR was prevented from doing the piling work required as a trespass
notice had been served on the company.
In the third case portrayed, Mr Palmer complained that SIHR's liability with respect to
covering the roof was misrepresented, since that was clearly the owner's responsibility.
He also complained that it was inaccurate for the programme to describe the final
location of the house as Shantytown.
Mr Palmer provided a great deal of documentation relating to the individual contracts,
and correspondence pertaining to each of the moves.
He contended that the programme breached standards G1, G2, G3, G4, G5, G6, G7, G8,
G10, G11, G13, G14, G15, G16, G17, G19, G20 and G21 of the Television Code of
Broadcasting Practice.
TVNZ's Response
When it responded to the complaint, TVNZ advised that while it would keep all of the
nominated standards in mind, it considered that the complaint concerned a breach of
standards G1 and G4, which are concerned with accuracy and fairness. Those standards
require broadcasters:
G1 To be truthful and accurate on points of fact.
G4 To deal justly and fairly with any person taking part or referred to in any
programme.
TVNZ prefaced its response with the observation that prior to the broadcast it had
checked with legal representatives of the complainants, and had contacted other relevant
parties, such as the Grey District Council, to verify the allegations.
First, TVNZ responded that the interview was made with Mr Palmer's consent and
cooperation. It said it found nothing to support his claim that it was a malicious
personal attack. It advised that it did not propose to comment on Mr Palmer's
complaint that the approach by the reporter was at a time which was inconvenient for
him, since that was not a broadcasting standards matter. However, it maintained, its
reporter acted in a professional manner throughout the interview.
To the complaint that the omission of words from the contract misled viewers, TVNZ
responded that, in its view, the omission did not alter the meaning of the contract. As
for the failure of the programme to emphasise the responsibility of the customers to
fulfil their part of the contracts, TVNZ noted that in each case the clause obliging the
owner to install the piles on the house site had been deleted from the contract.
TVNZ pointed out that one customer, who had paid in full and had met all of his
contractual obligations, had spent a year trying to get his house repaired and the piling
finished. The house remained uninhabitable. Another, in spite of attempts to resolve
the matter, had been hampered by the company's refusal to cooperate or to finish the
house. In the third case, TVNZ reported, the customer hired an independent contractor
to do the piling because SIHR refused to do it, and deducted that cost from the final
payment to SIHR. Mr Palmer then threatened to take the house away and so a trespass
notice was taken out against him and his company.
TVNZ rejected the allegation that the programme referred to "50 odd dissatisfied
customers". It did not specify any number, it responded, but it did reflect the fact that
the three featured were not the only dissatisfied customers. To Mr Palmer's claim that
it was wrong to describe him as the man in charge, and to state that the filming was done
outside his company's headquarters, TVNZ responded that the company records
showed him to be the main shareholder, and that his home in Springs Junction was the
company's registered office.
With respect to the specific omissions cited relating to each of the moves, TVNZ first
addressed SIHR's contention that it was because the first client had failed to conduct a
pre-survey that there was a delay in siting the house. It reported that this matter had
not been raised with the client previously, and the Grey District Council, which was
responsible for approving plans, was not aware of its being a problem either. TVNZ
added that the problem with this move was not relocating the house, but getting SIHR to
install the piling so that the house could be lowered onto piles and made habitable.
After a siting inspection from the Council, approval was given for the piles to be dug to
a depth of between 750 and 850mm. SIHR, TVNZ reported, had not installed the piling
even though the owner had agreed to pay the additional cost for deeper piles.
Responding to the claim that SIHR did not have unencumbered access because of the
presence of a tunnel house, TVNZ responded that the tunnel house did not prevent the
relocation of the house on its new site, and furthermore, that it was a flimsy contraption
which was easily moved.
Turning to the claim that the second client did not have ownership of the land when the
house was moved to the property, TVNZ noted that the agreement to purchase the
section was signed the day before the house was moved, and the vendor was fully aware
that a house was going to be moved on to the site. It considered Mr Palmer was
mistaken in believing that Mr Barker did not have ownership until mid July. TVNZ
explained that the trespass notice was served to prevent Mr Palmer from carrying out
his threat to take the house away.
TVNZ then dealt with the claim that the programme misrepresented who was liable for
covering the roof of the third house. It noted that during the move virtually every
window in the house was broken and one wall was badly damaged, apparently when the
removal truck struck a bank during the journey. TVNZ acknowledged that the contract
said that the owners were responsible for taking off the roof and covering it. However,
it understood that Mr Palmer refused to permit them to put tarpaulins on prior to the
move, or when rain began to fall during the journey. In response to the claim that it was
inaccurate to state that the house was moved to Shantytown, TVNZ noted that its final
destination was a short distance from Shantytown, and that viewers would have been
more likely to know where Shantytown was than its precise location.
In concluding, TVNZ said that it did not find that the broadcast was either inaccurate or
unfair to Mr Palmer, and declined to uphold the complaint.
The Authority's Findings
The Authority has received a large volume of correspondence from Mr Palmer in which
he has detailed the background circumstances relating to the three house removals
featured on the programme. It notes that Mr Palmer took issue with the manner in
which he and the company were portrayed on the programme, and that he considered
that Fair Go intentionally misled the public about the conduct of the company with
respect to each of the moves. The Authority has read Mr Palmer's detailed submissions
and TVNZ's comprehensive responses in rebuttal.
The Authority's task is to decide whether the programme breached broadcasting
standards. As it has observed on previous occasions, Fair Go is a consumer advocate
programme. It has a particular style which is familiar to viewers. In this item, three
disgruntled customers complained that services for which they had paid had not been
performed by SIHR. Extracts from an interview with Mr Palmer, which was stated as
having continued for 1 hour and 25 minutes, showed him defending the position of the
company and suggesting that the customers themselves were in breach of their
contractual obligations, thus making it impossible for SIHR to complete the removal
work. The programme concluded with an observation from the Fair Go presenter that
potential customers should be wary of becoming involved with SIHR in light of the
experiences of the three featured.
The Authority considers that the complaint can be appropriately dealt with under
standards G1 and G4 which, in its view, encompass the principal concerns of Mr
Palmer. Nevertheless, it is aware that he raised 16 other standards which he considered
were breached in the programme. The Authority takes this into account when it
assesses the complaint against standards G1 and G4.
First, the Authority examines the complaint that the item was untruthful and inaccurate,
thus breaching standard G1. A number of matters were identified by Mr Palmer under
this head. TVNZ has responded in detail. Upon examination of the various factual
matters (which are summarised above), the Authority concludes that they were
relatively minor matters which were satisfactorily answered in TVNZ's responses. It is
also of the view that the matters identified did not materially affect the overall
impressions of the company and its dealings with the clients.
Turning to the allegation that the programme was unfair and thus in breach of standard
G4, the Authority notes that Mr Palmer was himself given a full opportunity by the
Fair Go reporter to respond to the criticisms levelled at him and his company. He did
so in a lengthy interview. He complained that no satisfied customers were shown. The
Authority accepts that not all of SIHR's customers felt as aggrieved as the three
featured on the programme, and notes that this was acknowledged on the programme.
However, it considers that having unsuccessfully attempted to negotiate with SIHR to
complete the work contracted for, the three dissatisfied customers were entitled to turn
to a medium such as Fair Go to try to facilitate the completion of that work.
As noted above, the Fair Go format is familiar to viewers. It provides a forum for
consumers who are dissatisfied with goods or services, and allows their claims to be
investigated. The Authority considers that Mr Palmer was given an adequate
opportunity to respond to the allegations made about the conduct of his company. The
debate has continued in a lengthy correspondence.
Ultimately, despite the plethora of details disputed by Mr Palmer, the Authority
concludes that the programme did not breach any broadcasting standards. The claims
made by the dissatisfied customers were substantiated to the Authority's satisfaction.
While SIHR was not portrayed in a particularly favourable light with respect to each of
these moves, the programme did refer to other satisfied customers. Accordingly, the
Authority declines to uphold the complaint that standards G1 and G4 of the Television
Code of Broadcasting Practice, or any of the other standards nominated by the
complainant were breached.
For the reasons set forth above, the Authority declines to uphold the complaint.
Signed for and on behalf of the Authority
Lyndsay Loates
Member
28 May 1998
Appendix
South Island House Relocators' Complaint to Television New Zealand Ltd – 30
September 1997
Mr Roger Palmer of South Island House Relocators complained to Television New
Zealand Ltd about its broadcast of an item on a Fair Go programme on 3 September
1997 at 7.30pm. The item concerned his dealings with three clients, whose homes his
company had relocated.
He claimed that he had been the victim of a malicious verbal attack by the reporter and
expressed his annoyance that he had been approached out of working hours for an
interview at a time which was inconvenient for him. He contended that the
programme inaccurately portrayed him as "the man in charge". In fact, he reported, he
had not been responsible for signing any of the three contracts which were the subject
of the item, and had had very little involvement with the relocation process of one of
the contracts. Mr Palmer maintained that Fair Go knew that it was his son who had
signed the contracts.
Next, he complained that Fair Go misled the public by incorrectly quoting a section
from the company's standard contract on screen. He noted that six words had been
omitted and thus portrayed a false impression of the liability of the company.
Mr Palmer alleged that the camera crew trespassed on private property to film him
and his business premises. He contended that the premises shown were not owned
by South Island House Relocators.
In addition, Mr Palmer maintained that he had not received any complaint from one of
the parties shown in the programme, and that therefore he had not received a fair go
from the investigation. He said there was no file for this client, as the relocation had
been satisfactorily completed. He objected to Fair Go stating that a file pertaining to
one of the clients had been stolen, when he had advised the producer prior to the
broadcast that it had simply been removed from his office.
Mr Palmer objected to his business being described as a West Coast company. He
also objected to the failure to explain that each of the three clients was in breach of
their part of the contract, and that his company was willing to complete the job as
soon as the clients fulfilled their obligations. He noted that his company had
successfully completed 50 other relocations and had many satisfied clients. Mr
Palmer challenged the reporter to identify the "50 odd dissatisfied customers"
allegedly referred to in the programme.
Turning to the first case discussed (Mr McKenzie), Mr Palmer noted that the
programme failed to mention that the house could not be placed on piles as the client
had failed to complete the pre-survey, which meant that the relocators had to wait an
additional month to get the survey completed. Furthermore, he continued, the
company did not have unrestricted access to the property as required under the
contract because of the existence of a tunnel house. He noted that this was not
portrayed on the programme.
With respect to the second case (Mr Barker), Mr Palmer contended that the owner
signed a contract for relocation in May but that he did not have ownership of the
property until July, and a trespass notice prevented his company from doing the
piling work for the house. Mr Palmer complained that the programme failed to
include all of the facts, in particular that the owner did not have title to the property
until two months after he had signed a contract to relocate the house. It also did not
reveal that a garage, in addition to the house, was moved as part of the contract.
As for the third case (Mr and Mrs Johnson), which involved the relocation of a house
from Greymouth to near Shantytown, Mr Palmer complained that his company's
contractual duty with respect to covering the roof was misrepresented. He maintained
that it was the owners' responsibility to provide covering for the roof and they failed
to do so.
In a second letter, dated 1 October, Mr Palmer contended that the programme
breached the following standards of the Television Code of Broadcasting Practice -
G1, G2, G3, G4, G5, G6, G7, G8, G10, G11, G13, G14, G15, G16, G17, G19, G20,
G21, and any other standards which the Authority determined were breached.
He advised that he was seeking legal advice regarding Fair Go's investigation of his
company on a previous occasion.
TVNZ's Response to the Formal Complaint – 22 October 1997
TVNZ responded first that it had considered the list of standards which Mr Palmer
alleged were breached by the broadcast and had concluded that essentially his
complaint concerned a breach of standards G1 and G4 which are concerned with
accuracy and fairness. However, it advised, it would keep the other nominated
standards in mind as it assessed the complaint.
TVNZ advised that in the course of dealing with the complaint, it had learned that the
company had been subject of a number of complaints to Fair Go, and that the
common theme among complainants was that the company had failed to meet its
contractual obligations to its clients.
It emphasised that in selecting the three individual cases and before deciding to
broadcast the item, it had ascertained the circumstances surrounding each case by
checking with legal representatives of the complainants, and contacting other parties,
notably the Grey District Council. TVNZ noted that the reporter made numerous
attempts to contact Mr Palmer but was unable to do so until a few days before the
broadcast. TVNZ expressed surprise that Mr Palmer considered he had been attacked
in the interview, when it was conducted with his consent and cooperation.
TVNZ noted that at one point in the item, there was reference to the company's files.
Its understanding was that the reporter invited Mr Palmer to suspend the discussion
so as to obtain files from his nearby home. Mr Palmer refused to do so. TVNZ did
not believe he was treated unfairly.
With respect to the complaint that Mr Palmer was inaccurately portrayed as "the man
in charge", TVNZ pointed out that company records showed Mr Palmer was the main
shareholder of the company and that its registered office was his home at Springs
Junction. TVNZ denied that it was inaccurate for the reporter to state that a "few
questions" were going to be put to him. It acknowledged that the interview lasted 1
hour and 25 minutes, but noted that was to allow him to give his side of the story.
Turning to the complaint that he had not been responsible for any of the three signed
contracts, TVNZ pointed out that it was his company and he was responsible for it.
In one case, it noted that his son had signed the contract, but that Mr Palmer himself
had overseen the shift and had driven the truck. In the second case, while his son
signed the contract, there was a clause which clearly stated that it was at Mr Palmer's
discretion whether the final payment of $5000 would be reduced by $2000. In the
third case, TVNZ noted that Mr Palmer had tried to persuade the client to sign an
amended contract which removed any liability on the part of the company and was
ambiguous about the total cost of the job.
Next TVNZ responded to the assertion that when it quoted the words of the contract,
it removed six words and thus altered the meaning. It noted that the original contract
said:
Pay for and make good all major damage to any property caused directly by
the relocator's negligence during their time span of control of the relocation.
Fair Go broadcast the following:
Pay for and make good all major damage caused directly by the relocator's
negligence during the relocation.
TVNZ did not believe that the removal of the words altered the meaning of the
contract.
Referring to the suggestion that the reporter was guilty of trespass on his property,
TVNZ observed that there was in law an implied consent regarding entry to speak to
an occupier. It was only trespass if the person refused to leave after being asked to do
so. It noted that Mr Palmer agreed to an interview - he did not ask the reporter to
leave.
Responding to Mr Palmer's complaint that he was unfairly treated when described as
having upset so many customers, TVNZ noted that Fair Go had received a number of
complaints about the business. It also pointed out that it was noted that there had
been many satisfied customers as well. TVNZ disputed Mr Palmer's assertion that
the Johnsons had never complained to him about the moving of their house. It advised
that it knew as fact that they had complained on numerous occasions, and that it was
aware that the house was so badly damaged in the move that it was uninhabitable.
In considering whether Mr Palmer was treated fairly, TVNZ repeated that Mr Palmer
did consent to being interviewed, and was given the opportunity to gather the
necessary files and records and to send the reporter any relevant documents which
might substantiate the view that it was the customers who were in the wrong and not
Mr Palmer.
Turning to the report broadcast that a vital file had been stolen, TVNZ responded that
that information came from Mr Palmer himself in a telephone conversation with the
reporter. In later written material, Mr Palmer had stated that the file had been
removed during a burglary. In TVNZ's view, it was therefore correct to say it had
been stolen.
The question of whether Springs Junction, where the business was located, was or
was not a West Coast town was, according to TVNZ, trivial. It believed most
residents there considered themselves West Coasters, the company spent much of its
time in the region, and all of the complainants were on the West Coast.
To Mr Palmer's allegation that the contracts for the three clients featured contained
clauses which they had breached, TVNZ responded that in each case one or more of
those clauses had been deleted.
TVNZ noted that during the programme, Mr Palmer gave reasons why he had not
finished the work. In each case, TVNZ responded, the reasons were refuted by the
dissatisfied customers and the Grey District Council. It noted that the programme
acknowledged that there were many satisfied customers.
TVNZ suggested that it defied credulity for Mr Palmer to state that he was willing to
comply with the contracts now. It noted that one of the customers had paid in full
and had met all their contractual obligations but had spent the last year trying to get
their house repaired and the piling finished. In another case, the customer had tried to
get the matter resolved by the Disputes Tribunal, but Mr Palmer had refused to
cooperate. TVNZ argued that the company had not honoured the original contract in
that case.
TVNZ then outlined the facts of the third case. Mr Barker signed a contract which
involved shifting the house and putting it on new piles. The contract price was
$8000. However the company refused to do the piling work and Mr Barker was told
to get another company to do it. He assumed that the cost of the piling would be
deducted from the contract price. That did not happen, so Mr Palmer tried to
persuade him to sign a second contract which omitted any liability on the part of the
company with respect to the piling and which left the contract price open. Mr Barker
refused to sign, but offered to place the balance in a solicitor's trust account. Mr
Palmer apparently refused the offer, and instead threatened to take the house away.
In an effort to protect his property, Mr Barker took out trespass notices against Mr
Palmer and the company.
TVNZ denied that the programme stated there were 50 dissatisfied customers.
To Mr Palmer's allegation that one house could not be sited because there had been no
pre-survey work, TVNZ stated that neither the customer nor the District Council was
aware this was a problem. Getting the house on site was never a problem, TVNZ
continued, the problem was in getting the company to honour the contract and install
the piling and place the house on the piling. It rejected Mr Palmer's contention that
the piling plan was in breach of the building code. It advised that the Council stated
there was no problem with the piling plan.
TVNZ disputed Mr Palmer's assertion that the company did not have unencumbered
access to the property. The tunnel house did not prevent the relocation of the house.
TVNZ believed that Mr Palmer was mistaken in his assertion that with respect to the
second house, the customer did not have title to the land until 2 months after the
house was moved. It also considered it highly misleading that Mr Palmer contended
that he was unable to locate the house because a trespass notice was taken out against
him. TVNZ repeated that the trespass notice was issued later when Mr Palmer
threatened to take the house away.
TVNZ then responded to Mr Palmer's allegation that it was untrue to state that one
of the houses was moved from Greymouth to Shantytown. TVNZ noted that its final
location was a few minutes drive from Shantytown, and that most viewers would have
known where Shantytown was, but would not have been familiar with the actual rural
address of the property. TVNZ did not consider that was a false statement.
When that was moved, virtually every window was broken and one wall was badly
damaged, apparently when the vehicle struck a bank during the journey. In addition,
several ceilings collapsed. TVNZ accepted that the contract stated that the owners
would take the roof down and provide replacement iron as necessary. But, it pointed
out, the ceiling was not a roof, and because the ceilings were damaged, it was fair to
say that the company was liable. TVNZ advised that it understood that the owners
hired tarpaulins for the journey, but that the company refused to use them when the
rain began to fall during the move.
TVNZ concluded that the information presented was based on solid, documentary
evidence and was often supported by reference to third parties such as the vendor of
the section in Hokitika and the Grey District Council.
It advised that it was unable to conclude that the programme was unfair or inaccurate
and declined to uphold the complaint.
South Island House Relocators' Referral to the Broadcasting Standards
Authority – 26 November 1997
Dissatisfied with TVNZ's decision, Mr Palmer for South Island House Relocators
referred the complaint to the Broadcasting Standards Authority for investigation and
review pursuant to s.8(1)(a) of the Broadcasting Act 1989.
Mr Palmer made the following points:
1. Fair Go did not do a proper and exhaustive inquiry into the matter.
2. The business was not his personal house moving business. He denied that
there were complaints from three customers, and pointed out that he knew
nothing of the dissatisfaction of one of the customers until he was interviewed
by Fair Go.
3. Neither he nor his company was treated fairly.
4. TVNZ failed to consider the complaint under all of the standards cited.
5. Fair Go failed to note that each of the aggrieved customers shown on the
programme had failed to honour their obligations.
6. One of the complainants had never given notice of a complaint to him. He
noted that neither of the other two were being represented by their original
legal representative, which indicated to Mr Palmer the weakness of their case.
7. No other complainants had complained to him. He argued that it was
significant that Fair Go had withheld the names of the legal representatives of
the complainants and had not put in writing the statements from the Grey
District Council. He also repeated that it was misleading to state that a house
was moved to Shantytown when in fact its location was some 25 kms away.
He also disputed TVNZ's claims that it could not contact Mr Palmer until just
prior to the programme.
8. Mr Palmer emphasised that his agreement to be interviewed was as would be
expected of a person willing to negotiate.
9. Mr Palmer was prepared to be interviewed, but wished to have another
meeting at which he could rely on information from the relevant files.
10–18. Mr Palmer denied that he was the "man in charge" even though he was a major
shareholder. It was the company which was liable, and not the shareholders.
19–21. He denied that he attempted to get one of the complainants to sign an
amended contract. He objected to TVNZ's contention that removing words
from the contract did not change its meaning.
22. Mr Palmer maintained that the interview was conducted on private property
and the camera crew did not have permission to be there.
23–24. He denied that his home was the registered office of the company.
25. No satisfied customers were shown.
26. He denied that the second house was uninhabitable. He pointed out the
owners did not complain to him.
27. Mr Palmer maintained that his comment on the programme that the reporter
had his facts wrong was in relation to a discussion about Mr McKenzie and
Mr Barker.
29–31. Mr Palmer challenged Fair Go to produce evidence where he said a file had
been stolen.
32. He noted that the bulk of his business was not on the West Coast but in
Canterbury, contrary to what TVNZ contended.
33. Regarding the contents of the contract, Mr Palmer repeated that he only
claimed that the parties were in breach of their part of the contract. He noted
that all three contracts contained clauses 16, 17 and 18 and that it was
irrelevant whether they were crossed out or not.
34–35. Mr Palmer objected to the footage of his interview, explaining that he had not
had time to dress suitably for it. He also objected to the fact that no satisfied
customers were included on the programme.
36–38. He repeated that completion of the contract would be when the parties had
remedied their breach of contract and outlined some of the events which
transpired between the parties.
39. Mr Palmer challenged TVNZ to produce details of the alleged breaches of
contract.
40. He objected to the portrayal of his company.
41. Half a cut house is not a full house.
42. The piling depth had to be increased to allow for the fact that the customer
failed to dig out and backfill his section to allow the piling plan to be complied
with. The Grey District Council required certain conditions to be complied
with. Mr Palmer noted that his company incurred additional costs in order to
comply with the regulations. He considered Mr McKenzie was then liable to
reimburse his company for the extra expenses incurred.
43. The site plan had to be approved prior to signing the contract, according to the
pre-survey. There was an understanding that Mr McKenzie would remove
the tunnel green house and dig and back fill to level the section..
44. He challenged TVNZ's assertions that it double checked the facts presented.
45. Mr Palmer explained that his company was forced to bear additional costs
because one of the properties did not have clear access, and although the
property owner agreed to pay the additional amount, he did not do so, and
thus was in breach of his contract.
46–47. He disputed the details about the depths of the piling and said that the tunnel
house, Mr McKenzie's donkey, coal wagons and a fence hampered the
relocation of the house.
48. Mr Palmer agreed TVNZ was correct in stating that $5000 was paid as a late
payment.
49–50. Mr Palmer referred to a previous investigation by Fair Go about an unrelated
matter.
51–52. One of the owners did pay $3000 up front, but did not pay the $2000 for
lowering the house onto drums, or $1000 for relocation of a garage. Mr Palmer
admitted that neither the owner of the house or the land owner issued trespass
notices against him, but that they did prevent the company from digging post
holes.
53–56 Mr Palmer disputed TVNZ's account of the details of the move of the
Hokitika house. He challenged TVNZ to produce evidence where he stated
that the purchase of the section was in July. In fact, he pointed out, the
problem was that legal ownership did not pass until then and that was what
delayed the relocation.
57. Regarding the allegations about the damage to one of the houses, Mr Palmer
responded that it was the owner's fault and due to their laziness that damage
occurred to the roof. He pointed out that the owner had agreed to accept
liability. He challenged TVNZ to prove that every window was smashed, that
part of a wall was damaged in the relocation and that his company had not
fixed anything which was damaged. He asserted that the damage was caused
by the digger on site which struck the back of the house. He admitted that a
small amount of damage was caused when a corner of the house struck a bank
and damaged some joists which his company repaired.
58. Mr Palmer asserted that in all cases, more than a large slice of value for money
was delivered.
59–60 Mr Palmer expressed his disappointment about the manner in which the
matter had been dealt with by Fair Go.
He concluded:
Once again we allege that all our earlier and current complaints can be
substantiated and that there have been many and varied breaches by Fair Go
and TVNZ of the Broadcasting Standards Code of Practice and thus we have
no intention of accepting all the false explanation of TVNZ and that we will be
vehemently pursuing that our very valid complaints be upheld by the
respective authorities.
Mr Palmer appended some correspondence which supported his contentions.
TVNZ's Response to the Authority – 16 January 1998
TVNZ provided a comprehensive response to the referral. It noted that some matters
were raised by Mr Palmer which had not been in his original letter of complaint. It
asked the Authority to disregard them.
TVNZ responded to the numbered points in Mr Palmer's letter.
1. To Mr Palmer's assertion that it had not "completed any inquiry in a proper
judicial manner", TVNZ responded that if that remark referred to its handling
of the complaint, it reassured him that it had been put through the established
procedure required under s.6 of the Broadcasting Act. If it referred to the
programme itself, it advised that Fair Go undertook thorough research before
broadcasting the item and gave Mr Palmer every opportunity to put his side of
the story.
2. TVNZ advised that Fair Go had never claimed that the company was Mr
Palmer's personal house moving business. However it maintained that he was
the person in charge and ran the business, was the main shareholder and made
the decisions.
Referring to the three clients, TVNZ reported that two had engaged solicitors
to try to sort out their dispute with Mr Palmer, and the third said they had
made repeated complaints and requests to Mr Palmer and his son about their
uncompleted house. The interview with Mr Palmer was not conducted on
private property, it was on the roadside.
3. Mr Palmer was treated fairly. He was invited to produce documentation to
support his claims, but did not do so. He was provided the opportunity to
state his case in the interview.
4. TVNZ advised that its intention was to be helpful when it eliminated some of
the standards nominated by Mr Palmer. It was of the view that the complaint
concerned standards G1 and G4.
5. It remained TVNZ's view that the company, not its customers, was in breach
of its contractual obligations. All three complainants made payments in accord
with the terms of the contract. Two of the complainants offered to lodge the
final progress payment with a solicitor. Mr Palmer refused to accept this offer
and honour his company's contractual obligations. The fact that the houses in
question were unfinished and/or uninhabitable was, in TVNZ's view, itself a
breach of contract.
6. All three complainants remained adamant they complained to the company.
The court action was initiated by Mr Palmer himself after he was advised that
the complaints against his company would be broadcast on Fair Go. It added
that earlier that day Mr Palmer offered to finish all three properties if Fair Go
promised not to broadcast the complaint or any future complaints against the
company. The complainants refused to accept those terms and Mr Palmer
said he would sue them.
The customer who Mr Palmer referred to as having no legal representative was
making use of the Disputes Tribunal, so did not need legal representation.
Even if the other two had changed their legal representatives, it did not mean
their case was weak. TVNZ submitted that it was more likely they had
engaged counsel with more experience in the area.
7. TVNZ advised that Fair Go had several other complaints against the company
in its files. Most were reluctant to take further action for fear of being served
legal action by Mr Palmer. Fair Go had not withheld the names of additional
complainants or their legal representatives. It had never been asked to produce
them.
TVNZ confirmed that it interviewed Mr Palmer's son but the interview was
not used because Stephen Palmer insisted that the matters being raised should
be addressed to his father.
Fair Go had never received any request for statements in writing. The facts of
the cases were checked in one instance with the Grey District Council, and in
the other two, with the owners' legal representatives.
TVNZ confirmed that one of the complainants lived near Shantytown, and
although it was a country residence, Shantytown was the nearest town. It
emphasised that the rural address would have meant nothing to a national
audience, whereas Shantytown did.
TVNZ emphasised that Fair Go made numerous attempts to contact the
company, despite Mr Palmer's claim to the contrary. It noted that none of the
documents from the firm carried either a cellphone or fax number, and that
there was no reply from the telephone number.
8–9. Having described the interview as a "vicious, malicious, verbal, unarranged
attack", TVNZ noted that it was pleased Mr Palmer now acknowledged that
he agreed to be interviewed. It said it was bewildered by his claim that he
asked that it be held somewhere else and that he be given time to assemble
files. That claim TVNZ described as total fabrication. It wrote:
Mr Palmer was approached, advised that Fair Go was investigating
complaints about his company and asked if he would answer some
questions on camera. He could have refused; he could have walked
away and the reporter – as is routine in such cases -would then have
invited him to contact the programme later to discuss the merits of the
complaints or provide a statement. Instead his response was "no
problem" and the interview as shown in the programme proceeded
without any conditions attached.
It stressed that he consented to be interviewed. At one point the interview
stopped so he could collect his files, but the offer to suspend the interview
was declined. It noted that the interview lasted an hour and 25 minutes and at
the end, Mr Palmer was invited to discuss the matter further on the telephone
and to send relevant documents to Fair Go. The documents were never
received, but the reporter did have further discussions with Mr Palmer.
10. Mr Palmer was at liberty to decline the interview.
11. TVNZ maintained that it did not think he was treated unfairly.
12. The company has three shareholders. Mr Palmer is the major shareholder.
The two complainants who attempted to resolve the dispute with the aid of
lawyers dealt solely with him. His son and partner told Fair Go that any
comment would come from Mr Palmer.
13. Mr Palmer was correct in saying the company, and not its shareholders, was
liable.
14–18. Mr Palmer and his son are two of the three owners and they also operated the
business. TVNZ considered it acted correctly in trying to resolve the disputes
by dealing with Mr Palmer.
19. The second complainant had a legally binding contract with SIHR. It did not
consider Mr Palmer's attempt to rewrite the contract (making it more
favourable to the company) and to force the customer to sign it was evidence
that he was meeting his contractual obligations. It suggested that it was the
company, not the customer which was in breach of the contract.
20–21. Removal of the words from the contract did not alter the meaning of the clause,
according to legal advice received by TVNZ.
22. Fair Go was not guilty of trespass. The interview was conducted on the
roadside. Mr Palmer was incorrect to say the crew was asked to leave. There
was no request by Mr Palmer for the meeting to be held on another day. It
added:
The closest he came to that was his proclamation that he would return
to television (apparently on Holmes) to prove the Fair Go reporter
wrong.
23–24. Company records showed that the registered office of the company was his
home.
25. TVNZ did not dispute that Mr Palmer had satisfied customers.
26. TVNZ reported as fact that one of the houses was so badly damaged it was
uninhabitable. The owners had made numerous requests to the company to
repair the damage and finish the piling to no avail.
27. TVNZ noted that when on the programme Mr Palmer told the reporter he had
his facts wrong, it was in reference to Mr McKenzie who had paid out
$15,000 on his contract, and did not refer to the Johnsons who were living in a
bus because their house was not habitable. It advised that a check of the
videotape would show that Mr Palmer's recollection was wrong.
28–31. The missing file was that of Mr McKenzie, the first customer shown. In a
phone call with the reporter, TVNZ noted, Mr Palmer had been very definite
that it was missing and implied that Mr McKenzie was behind the theft.
32. TVNZ denied that the story was a sham. All the complainants lived on the
West Coast.
33. TVNZ noted that the company had never explained how the customers were in
breach of their contractual obligations and how they could remedy the
situation. It noted that each of the three contracts had certain clauses crossed
out – the McKenzies had clauses 17 and 18 crossed out, and the other two had
clause 18 crossed out. These clauses therefore did not apply.
34–35. TVNZ contended that Mr Palmer was given more air time than any of the
complainants. His reasons for not honouring the contracts and completing the
work were included in full.
36. TVNZ considered the evidence suggested that it was Mr Palmer and not the
customers who were in breach of contract. It believed it stretched credulity for
him to state that he was willing to comply with the contracts.
37. It noted that the Johnsons met all their obligations, paying cash up front. The
company was responsible for any damage that occurred. It had not repaired
the damage which did occur.
38. TVNZ clarified the facts of the matter which was before the Disputes
Tribunal. Mr McKenzie was asking for an order that the house be finished for
the agreed balance of $5,000. Because Mr Palmer refused to cooperate, the
case could not be heard.
39. TVNZ provided details from Mr Barker's contract which showed that the
total price was $8000 and that the company would do the piling. Since Mr
Barker had to get an independent contractor to do the piling, TVNZ considered
it reasonable that he believed he was entitled to a discount.
40. In addition to the three complainants shown, Fair Go knew of a number of
other dissatisfied customers.
41. Fair Go never claimed nor implied that the company moved only half the
house, nor did it claim that half a house was a full house.
42. TVNZ rejected the suggestion that it claimed there was a contract between the
company and the District Council. It advised the first it heard of the problem
being related to the pre-survey was in Mr Palmer's initial letter of complaint.
He did not mention it during the interview. TVNZ emphasised that Mr
McKenzie's contract stated that the company would do all the piling. The
company made its bid based on a site inspection. It noted that Mr McKenzie
dug the piles deeper himself and offered to contribute to the cost of having
longer piles.
43. Mr McKenzie did offer to move the tunnel house, but was told it was not a
problem.
44. Fair Go could document all its claims, TVNZ advised.
45. These issues have been discussed.
46. TVNZ suggested that the detailed description of the piling requirements
suggested that Mr Palmer might have recovered the missing file.
47. TVNZ rejected the suggestion that it manipulated the tunnel house out of the
picture. It noted that it was a flimsy structure which was easily able to be
moved.
48. TVNZ suggested that the payment of $5000 was the third payment and was
paid before the house was lowered onto the piles. It was not a late payment,
as Mr Palmer claimed.
49–50. TVNZ responded that the matters raised were not relevant to this complaint.
51. Mr Barker did pay $3000 but refused to pay the second $2000 instalment
because the company had not done the piling. Mr Barker got another
contractor in to do the piling and offered to lodge the outstanding monies
(minus $2000 for the piling) with an independent solicitor provided the
company would complete the job. The company tried to get him to sign a new
contract, and he refused. Mr Barker then took out trespass notices to prevent
the company coming onto the property to remove the house.
52. The trespass notice was served several weeks after the company refused to do
the piling and an independent contractor was called in. At no point was the
company issued a trespass notice which would have prevented it digging the
holes.
53. The reason the company was not paid the full amount was because the work
was not done.
54. The moving of the garage was in July.
55. Mr Palmer was not denied access to the property.
56. The purchase documents for the property were signed on 9 May.
57. The Johnson's contract stated that the company would pay for all major
damage caused during the move. They relied on the company to do the work
and had a right to expect that the company would do it and make good any
damage. There are photographs to show the smashed windows, which should
have been covered with corrugated iron before the move. TVNZ advised that
it knew nothing about a digger and a wire rope which was alleged to have
caused damage to the house.
58. None of the complainants claim to have received value for money from the
company. All three were left with uninhabitable houses. In TVNZ's view, all
three made attempts to sort out their problems with the company before
talking to Fair Go.
TVNZ concluded by wishing Mr Palmer well with his book.
South Island House Relocators' Final Comment – 24 February (received 1 April
1998)
Mr Palmer sought from TVNZ:
*evidence that there was a law which would prevent him from holding files in
another office;
*the written material where Mr Palmer stated that a file had been removed in a
burglary;
*evidence that Mr Palmer used the word "stolen";
*the names of the legal representatives of the complainants;
*the video which clearly showed that the interview with him took place on
someone else's property;
*evidence that the Johnsons had made numerous complaints to him;
*evidence that the man in charge was Mr Palmer.
Mr Palmer asserted that the Johnsons had not complained to him after their move,
while Barker and McKenzie had done. He objectd to TVNZ's contention that Fair
Go had been unable to make contact with Mr Palmer. He also sought from TVNZ:
*evidence that Fair Go had attempted to contact him by fax;
*evidence that the contract alllowed progress payments to be lodged with a
solicitor;
*evidence that the unfinished house was a breach of contract;
*a copy of a letter from Fair Go to the complainants dated 15/10/97;
*an acknowledgment from TVNZ that the film crew delayed Stephen Palmer for
one hour, not 12 minutes.
Mr Palmer pointed out that the Johnson's piling was completed according to the
contract. He maintained that the reason the house was uninhabitable was a result of
their own failings.
Mr Palmer objected to the suggestion that had he completed the work on all three
properties, he could have prevented Fair Go from broadcasting. He pointed out that
the Barker property had already been put in the hands of another contractor who had
"half-wrecked" it, and then SIHR had been held responsible. Further, SIHR had a
trespass order against it and therefore could not finish the work.
Commenting on TVNZ's portrayal of the three property owners as intending to get
habitable homes, Mr Palmer pointed out that was exactly what his company intended
to provide. Yet, he continued, in the case of Mr Barker, after 6 months had elapsed,
no progress had been made on the house to make it habitable. Mr Palmer concluded
that Mr Barker never intended to live in the house.
Referring to the numbered points in previous correspondence, Mr Palmer wrote:
19. Fair Go should show how he forced the customer to sign a contract under
threat.
20–21. The assertion by TVNZ that removing the words from the contract did not
alter its meaning was wrong.
23–27. The portrayal of the Johnson's complaints against SIHR was unfair and did
not show that they had failed to take responsibility for themselves.
Mr Palmer considered it unfair that he was approached for an interview without
warning, late in the day, and was given no opportunity for a meeting at a later date.
No mention was made of the owners' liabilities and that it was not Roger Palmer, but
his son who signed the contracts.
Mr Palmer challenged TVNZ to provide evidence regarding the reasons why each of
the houses was not completed. He detailed a large number of matters which he said
illustrated that the clients did not fulfil their contracts. In particular he maintained
that Mr Barker did not have title to the land that his house was moved to, and that
facts concerning the relocation of the garage were withheld, and that the Johnson
house grazed a bank as a result of error on the part of the escort which they provided
themselves. He denied that SIHR was responsible for any damage to the Johnson
house.
Finally, Mr Palmer referred to the history of correspondence between himself and
Fair Go regarding other subsidiary matters.
Further Correspondence
In a brief response, TVNZ advised that it considered the content of the complaint had
extended beyond the matters at issue when the complaint was initially lodged.
It advised that it could provide documentary support for what was said in the
programme. However, it considered that a stop should be put to the convoluted
correspondence, and asked that the Authority considered the complaint on the basis
of the paperwork it had before it. It suggested that if the Authority identified any
ambiguities or irregularities which needed to be cleared up, then it should seek a
specific response on the particulars.
On 29 April 1998, Mr Palmer of SIHR faxed 48 pages of material, including a copy of
the contract with Mr Barker, copies of correspondence dating back several years with
Fair Go, and correspondence relating to the moves, some of which had already been
sent to the Authority previously.