Noble and Television New Zealand Ltd - 1996-093
Members
- J M Potter (Chair)
- A Martin
- L M Loates
- R McLeod
Dated
Complainant
- P F Noble
Number
1996-093
Programme
HolmesBroadcaster
Television New Zealand LtdChannel/Station
TVNZ 1
Summary
Sexual practices were discussed by a group of secondary school students during an
item on Holmes broadcast on TV One between 7.00–7.30pm on 2 May 1996. The
programme dealt with a new government policy on sex education and contraception
and, in addition to the comment from students, included a discussion between the
Minister of Health and representatives from a number of community organisations.
Mr Noble complained to Television New Zealand Ltd, the broadcaster, about the
aspect involving the students. He considered that the questions asked at that hour
were unnecessarily intimate and invaded the students' privacy.
Emphasising the relevance of the questions put to the students to the issues dealt with
in the programme, TVNZ explained the careful process followed before the item
complained about was filmed. It declined to uphold the complaint.
Dissatisfied with TVNZ's decision, Mr Noble referred his complaint to the
Broadcasting Standards Authority under s.8(1)(a) of the Broadcasting Act 1989.
For the reasons below the Authority declines to uphold the complaint.
Decision
The members of the Authority have viewed the item complained about and have read
the correspondence (summarised in the Appendix). As is its practice, the Authority
determines the complaint without a formal hearing.
The Holmes programme broadcast on TV One on 2 May 1996 examined a new
government policy on sex education and contraception aimed at reducing the number
of abortions, teenage pregnancies and STDs. Reactions to that policy were sought
from high school students, and there was a discussion between representatives of
community organisations and the Minister of Health as to the implications of the
policy.
Mr Noble complained about the interview with the group of students – of both sexes –
who, among other things, were asked if they were sexually active. Mr Noble
maintained that such a question was not for airing in any public arena, and argued that
asking the question on a high-rating television programme transgressed all concepts of
decency and privacy. Then, Mr Noble continued, the interviewer proceeded to ask
searching questions regarding clinical aspects of sexual behaviour which, in his view,
rapidly became disgusting. He argued that TVNZ warranted a severe admonishment
because the material did not comply with the guidelines regarding suitability and time
of broadcast.
In its response, TVNZ advised that it had assessed the complaint under standards G2
and G4 of the Television Code of Broadcasting Practice. Those standards require
broadcasters:
G2 To take into consideration currently accepted norms of decency
and taste in language and behaviour, bearing in mind the context
in which any language or behaviour occurs.
G4 To deal justly and fairly with any person taking part or referred to in
any programme.
TVNZ noted first that Mr Noble conceded that he had not watched the entire
programme. It considered that had he done so, he would have had a different view of
the discussion with the students, because their remarks would have been placed in
context. TVNZ pointed out that the various points which emerged from the students'
responses were elaborated on by the panel and applied to the policy which had that
day been announced.
Acknowledging that the discussion was clinical in nature, and that the students
responded in a direct and forthright manner, TVNZ denied that there was anything
lewd or unsavoury in their answers. It did not share the view that it was "incredible"
that the students were asked about their own sexual behaviour, because that was what
the discussion was about. It considered that most parents would have been heartened
by the mature and responsible attitudes displayed. TVNZ denied the accusation that
probing into the students' sexual behaviour was prurient, responding that the story
was of direct relevance to the day's news that the government had announced a
package on contraception, abortion and sex education which would directly impinge on
the teenagers' lives as they reached sexual maturity. In the context of the debate
which was to follow, it did not believe the discussion with students about sex and
contraception exceeded the bounds of good taste and decency.
TVNZ then responded to the complaint that the students had not been dealt with
fairly, in contravention of standard G4. It explained that prior to the programme, a
detailed list of questions had been faxed to the two schools from which the students
were drawn. In each case, the school's nurse or counsellor examined the questions and
the students who were approached about appearing on the programme knew the line
of questioning which would follow. TVNZ emphasised that prior to filming, the
director ran through all the questions again and the students were told they did not
have to participate unless they wished to. Throughout the discussion a nurse and a
counsellor were present to ensure that none of the students was coerced. They were
also asked to intervene immediately if they had any concerns about the questions put.
TVNZ concluded that in those circumstances, and in light of comments made in the
studio discussion by the Minister of Health and the principal of Tamaki College, the
students were not dealt with unfairly. It emphasised that in the context of the whole
programme, the students provided an important dimension to a topical debate of
relevance to their age group.
The Authority acknowledges that the focus of the entire programme on the sexual
mores of young people would be likely to draw some criticism. However, it notes, the
context of the discussion was the announcement that day that extra funding was being
made available to educate young people, the at-risk group, of the consequences of
being sexually active. In that context, it considers the views of the young people were
relevant. With respect to the personal question regarding each student's sexual
experience, the Authority believes that was on the borderline of acceptability because
it appeared intrusive. While the Authority recognises the efforts made by TVNZ to
avoid exploiting the students, it considers it would have been helpful to viewers to
have known that the questions were given to the students prior to the discussion, that
a counsellor or nurse had approved their content, and that the students themselves
were under no pressure to participate or to answer questions they did not wish to.
The Authority does not believe a frank discussion of sexual matters is in itself a breach
of the standard requiring good taste and decency, since not only is sex education part
of the school health curriculum, but there is tolerance within families and the
community for discussions of sex and sexuality. It concludes that although one of the
questions was somewhat borderline, there was nothing in the discussion which
contravened standard G2.
Turning to the complaint that standard G4 was breached because the students were
not dealt with fairly, the Authority considers the explanation given by TVNZ of the
careful preparations made prior to broadcast to prepare the students – and to select
representative speakers – ensured that the standard was not contravened. It believes
the discussion was appropriate in the context and that the students, who represented a
good cross-section of the community, expressed their views clearly and effectively. It
concludes that standard G4 was not breached.
For the reasons set forth above, the Authority declines to uphold the complaint.
Signed for and on behalf of the Authority
Judith Potter
Chairperson
22 August 1996
Appendix
Mr Noble's Complaint to Television New Zealand Ltd - 21 May 1996
P F Noble of Mount Maunganui complained through the Broadcasting Standards
Authority to Television New Zealand Ltd about the broadcast of an item on Holmes
between 7.00 - 7.30pm on 2 May 1996 which involved a discussion with a number of
high school students about their sexual practices and attitudes.
Mr Noble alleged that the material was indecent and that the intimate questions
invaded the students' privacy. While acknowledging that such a discussion might be
appropriate in a school health syllabus, he suggested that the inclusion of such
material in the curriculum was still controversial. He continued:
Even so this gives no justification for Holmes to ask young people specifically
and individually whether or not they have ever had sexual intercourse. Such
an intimate question is not for airing in any public arena. For Holmes to do
this on a TV show with a high rating and at a time in which restrictions on
subject material are in place transgresses all concepts of decency and privacy.
In conclusion, he said that while he felt that many overseas clips included on Holmes
were inappropriate considering the time of broadcast, nothing as unsavoury as was
shown on this occasion had been included previously.
TVNZ's Response to the Formal Complaint - 4 June 1996
TVNZ considered the complaint under standards G2 and G4 of the Television Code of
Broadcasting Practice.
In dealing with the complaint, TVNZ noted that Mr Noble had not watched the entire
item and it maintained that the students' remarks were later placed in context. The
points which emerged were covered by a panel of community representatives who
discussed the new policy in relation to sex education and contraception introduced by
the Minister of Health.
TVNZ stated that the discussion with the students was direct and forthright, rather
than lewd or unsavoury. It noted that while Mr Noble seemed distressed by the
discussion, it argued that most parents would have been heartened by the young
people's mature and responsible attitudes. In declining to uphold a breach of G2, it
stated:
In reference to the standard, we do not feel in this day and age, a discussion
with college age students about sex and contraception goes beyond "currently
accepted norms of taste and decency", especially in the context of the serious
discussion which was to follow.
Turning to the aspect of the complaint which focussed on the way that the students
were treated, TVNZ outlined the measures taken to ensure that the students were
treated fairly.
The questions had been faxed to the schools involved for the school nurse or
counsellor to examine. The schools approached the teenagers involved to make sure
they were comfortable with the questions. Before filming began, the students were
again asked whether they were comfortable with the questions and were told that they
were under no obligation to participate and that they could decline to answer a
question even after the cameras were rolling. A nurse and counsellor were present
throughout the discussion and were asked to intervene if any matter made them feel
unhappy.
TVNZ informed Mr Noble that in these circumstances, and considering the positive
comments during the studio discussion, they felt the students had not been treated
unfairly.
In conclusion TVNZ wrote:
As indicated above we are sorry you did not watch the whole programme,
because we believe that had you seen the discussion with students in the
context of the whole debate you would, like us, have recognised that the
students added an important and worthwhile dimension to a topical debate of
direct relevance to people their age.
Mr Noble's Referral to the Broadcasting Standards Authority - 18 June 1996
Dissatisfied with TVNZ's response, Mr Noble referred the complaint to the
Broadcasting Standards Authority under s.8(1)(a) of the Broadcasting Act 1989. In
his referral he enclosed a letter of the same date addressed to TVNZ summarising his
arguments against the broadcaster's decision.
Conceding that the young people would have been aware of the nature of the
presentation because of the steps taken, Mr Noble maintained that they should not
have been subject to such public exposure.
He stated that the main part of his complaint was about the content and timing of the
programme, asserting:
Your comment about not viewing the complete programme is quite specious.
Decency and its antithesis are absolutes - to use the weary contextual canard to
justify Holmes' prurient probing into the sexual attitudes and behaviour of
teenagers is to insult the intelligence. For the record I watched the second part
of the programme and I cannot recollect the panel making any reference to part
one, certainly not to the matter to which I have raised strong objections.
He contended that what happened in the bedroom was not a matter for public scrutiny
It "should not be projected into family living rooms", in some cases "literally between
the soup and the dessert". He considered that the concept of restricted times for
broadcasting offensive material was really either a farce or a hoax.
Finally, Mr Noble maintained that the regulations governing broadcasting standards
were too evasive, and that this was proven by TVNZ's decision, which was, in his
opinion, subjective and insensitive to the concerns of the public.
TVNZ's Response to the Authority - 2 July 1996
In a short report to the Authority, TVNZ noted that it was no longer sure whether Mr
Noble had seen the whole programme as his letters were contradictory.
TVNZ denied that "decency and its antithesis" were absolutes, suggesting that the
concept of decency was subjective and constantly changing. It persisted in its opinion
that many viewers would have been heartened by the mature and responsible way that
the issues were discussed.
Emphasising that this was not a situation where a bored producer decided to get some
teenagers to discuss sex, but was a story directly relevant to the day's news, TVNZ
denied that the interviews were in any way prurient. To Mr Noble's suggestion that
bedroom behaviour should not be projected into family living rooms, TVNZ submitted
that sex education was a social issue of direct importance to all parents and students.
Mr Noble's Final Comment - 11 July 1996
In response to TVNZ's comment that he had not watched the entire programme, Mr
Noble explained that he had discontinued watching in view of the deep disgust he had
felt.
Acknowledging some room for the subjective interpretation of the concept of decency,
Mr Noble said that the concept, nevertheless, should not be watered down at the
whim of any individual or organisation. It did not equate, as the media seemed to
believe, with the lowest common denominator.